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Robert Hale is now contributing to a Challenge Australian Soft Power

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Loris Semple commented on the Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

My apologies...I was crossing 2 threads when I wrote my last post here - anyway - rather than delete - I just hope to clarify.  MindHive has proved to be a bit too 'theoretical' for me (my limitation - not yours)..  Impact for me is a very powerful word implying movement resulting in changed characteristics (even at a physical level).....

I like to try and keep it simple....

All the best and warmest regards.....L xoxoxoxoxox

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Loris Semple commented on the Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

I love you all.  You make me laugh (I am not being cynical).  This is a very very funny discussion (confusing - so funny-strange) for me -I understood the initial question to go to the 'purpose of MindHive'.'.  What should we be discussing and why and how...etc....

My thinking does not fit with the direction of this thread.  

I wish you all the best.  I thank you all for clarifying for me that this is not 'my space' for 'collaboration'.  

Much love and best wishes...L xoxoxox 

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Eyal Chipkiewicz is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Michael Young commented on the Challenge Does Scale Really Translate To Impact?

Can someone point to or suggest a universal or well accepted definition of 'impact'??

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Peter Grimbeek is now contributing to a Challenge Does Scale Really Translate To Impact?

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Peter Grimbeek commented on the Challenge Does Scale Really Translate To Impact?

This challenge seems to be in the business of multiplying the issues raised elsewhere by asking people to define the term, impact. If it is difficult to define impact (based on the premise that there is no one core meaning but rather a continuum of meanings based on the various uses of the term (see: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/wittgenstein/#MeanUse), then in asking for the explication of some conjunction of 'achieving scale' and 'impact', the conceptual water truly becomes somewhat deeper than is comfortable.

One can only wonder at the range of uses spanned by the combination of these two terms.

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Peter Grimbeek is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Peter Grimbeek commented on the Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

Reading the contributions and the framework for discussion, it looks as if we're aiming for a generic  definition of the term, impact, that would allow us to discuss the impact of x on y, where x and y could be a range of events.

I had the pleasure many years ago of studying the philosophical thoughts of one Ludwig Wittgenstein (regarded by some as the 20th century's greatest philosopher). In his later years, he dismissed the notion that there is a core meaning for any term. Instead, he talked about language games and family resemblance instead.

To apply this to the discussion about impact, one might expect a crowd-sourced discussion of 'impact' to expose a continuum of uses for the term that might clump into discrete groupings or might overlap and bleed into one another. One might also identify equally valid but conflicting uses of the term, impact.

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Michael Young is now contributing to a Challenge Does Scale Really Translate To Impact?

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Neha Deoliya is now contributing to a Challenge The MindHive Book

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John Bates is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Vibhor Pandey is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Liz Reece is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Vicki Anderson is now contributing to a Challenge Does Scale Really Translate To Impact?

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Richard Ferrers commented on the Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

I have been attending a CSIRO impact workshop, yesterday in Canberra. for ARDC (.edu.au) - Hi Simon - (we used to work together at ARDC predecessor ANDS).

Their methodology, which is heavy duty, goes into great detail on defining impact.See the online description at:

https://www.csiro.au/en/About/Our-impact/Our-impact-model

CSIRO break impact into: economic, social and environmental. Then further they create a dozen or so categories under each of the three top level headings.

Their headline is: "We have a consistent, organisation-wide approach to planning research and managing its impact, which promotes understanding and demonstration of its real-world value."

 CSIRO define impact as: "An effect on, change or benefit to the economy, society and/or environment, beyond those contributions to academic knowledge."

Some key features of the system are: rigourous, defensible, measureable, logical, and repeatable. Some weaknesses of the system are its complexity, its focus on linear connections between inputs and outputs when reality is sometimes massively complex (ie parallel), meaning causation is non-linear and non-deterministic. It is interesting however. It does express risks in causation and documents assumptions, but it needs some enhancement around monitoring impact, perhaps through a traffic light system of reporting.

2. In my research on value, I see impact as partly about reaching people, and partly about changing people. Both can be measured through web-like metrics like views and downloads of the data I publish (google: ferrers figshare). Measuring change in behaviour such as uptake of a new idea is also possible. For example, how many people install solar panels, following an intervention.

There is more to think about here.

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Jacob Hampson is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Jacob Hampson is now contributing to a Challenge Does Scale Really Translate To Impact?

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Pamela Gonzalez is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Nola Turner-Jensen commented on the Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

As an Aboriginal Sociologist it has been my focus for several years to find a way to find/develop solutions that will have a high impact to improve the current status of my people in their now shared country.  I think the greatest challenge to even get impact on the board is to to first convince all of the players that what they are currently doing needs to change.

That was the first challenge in our five year research study to work out how to do that?

The real life experiences/scenarios we undertook with Aboriginal Australians and Australian people attending meetings, collaborating, being mentored, family events etc. were the key to letting our audience build their own awareness and sit in the driving seat to change their own behaviours. These real life scenarios and how they made people from all Cultures feel have been become incredible impact centred narratives! If we can roll this out we firmly believe this will indeed create real impactful change for a better Australia.

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Richard Ferrers is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Robert Humphries is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Steve Parker is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Steve Parker commented on the Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

Impact is an effect. Measuring effects would be the way to measure impact. Impact could be positive or negative. Effects would vary depending on context, purpose/aims etc.

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Paul Syrette is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Simon Pockley is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Simon Pockley commented on the Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

The word 'impact' appears to have increased in currency since the 1950s. It has reached the point where many people now recoil from using it. I use the word 'recoil' deliberately as my sense of how the word 'impact' functions is tinged with the smell of cordite and munitions. Something (perhaps a new idea) has been driven hard or propelled into a wall of indifference and has not only made a large impression in that wall but created radiating cracks and even shattered substrates behind the wall. Consequently, when measuring 'impact' we need to understand not just the depth of impression but the myriad and even unexpected cracks and flaws (doubts) in what was a previously strong conceptual framework or reality. I can speculate on the nature of the propellant as media promotion or even just the brute force of reality - as is the case with the impact global warming.

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Sarah Davies is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Cat Gomer is now contributing to a Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

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Tom Orren commented on the Challenge What Do We Actually Mean When We Say 'Impact'?

This is just a 'first thought' but is an 'impact' like 'force' in physics? A body at rest, or in motion, will continue in that state unless acted on by a force. Force causes a body to change, so impact might just be anything that causes an individual or a society to change. Either a change form doing nothing to doing something, a change from doing one thing to doing another thing, or a change in the speed or direction in which something we are already doing, is done.

If so, detecting change would be an important part of recognising impact. We'd also have to decide whether that change was for the better or the worse.

Also, sometimes, having no impact (i.e. doing nothing) can have an impact. Say if there's a change in the environment that we need to react to... like a car rolling towards us. In that case, our ignorance could have a big impact on us. We aren't making an impact, the external environment is having an impact on us - and if we don't change what we're doing, we'll suffer.

So impact can be outwards, from us, or inwards, towards us. 

Sorry if that's all a bit vague at the moment. I'll keep thinking.

 
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